Vision Heresy in Charismania

When I was a kid we used to play this game where a long string was running through the hands of a circle of people, and on it was a button which could be scooted around. The point was to send the button along from person to person. The problem was that someone was "it," and they were trying to catch you passing the button along. If they caught you, you were "it."

The following is a case of playing a game of seeing who has the button of interpretation. The game is to pass around the vision and let all sorts of people give bits and pieces of the interpretation of the vision. A consensus of very wise people will then rule on a majority report, and a final interpretation will be arrived at. This has virtually NOTHING to do with the Word of God or the Apostolic early church era.

I suppose it is a bit lazy of me, but from time to time I drop a piece of correspondence in just the way I got it in E-Mail. I want to do this so you can catch the utter confusion and nonsensical absurdity of this vision and its alleged interpretation. The source for this whole mess is Watchmen Ministries. I asked to be dropped from their mailing list because I was getting so angry over this trash. I will not even deal with their heresies again. If you like them, go on ahead and gather in with them, and you will become demon possessed like them.

I want you to notice how the enterpretation of this vision includes a defense of the King James Bible. We don't need the help of devils to defend the Word of God.

From: "Info"
To: "Steve Van Nattan" steve@balaams-ass.com
Subject: This is why there are so many false prophets in the church today...
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:56:00 -0400

----- Original Message -----

From: -------------

To: Such and such ministries

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: Translation of Vision

Thanks for taking time to answer. This is the third answer I had to the vision. The first two did not fit but were close to what you said. Your words seemed to fit and settle in my spirit that this is what the Lord is piano coversning us about. I will forpiano coversd this to those He says.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Such and such ministries

To: -------------

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: Translation of Vision

Dear -----------,

Just to note! When you first sent the vision on the 16th, I looked at it and tried to interpret it, but the thoughts at that time were cloudy and I gave up and said well someone else can translate it and forgot about it. Late last night while I was searching for some mail on the inbox and came across your vision it (interpretation) just appeared and jumped out at me as a spontaneous prophecy or the Rhema Word does in Scripture. I had to stop doing what I was doing and the thoughts of the meaning just flowed, You know what I am talking about. When the HOLY SPIRIT takes over every thing else stops.

You must know whenever I enjoy reading something over and over I know it is not me, its the LORD. Yes, this also agrees in my Spirit and it is quite obvious on the matter of Apostasy and Satan working harder because he is and his brood of vipers are being named and identified by more and more of the saints and more and more of them are being delivered and he knows his time is getting real short. . Thank You JESUS for your Love for us to piano coversn your children to sound the trumpet for the battle and no sweat because the battle is the LORD's and I know beyond doubt our LORD shall be victorious which makes us victorious Amen and hallelujah! Come LORD JESUS Come! get us out of this mess.

Blessings , ed

----- Original Message -----

From: Such and such ministries

To: -------------

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:55 PM

Subject: Vision Inquiry!

Dear --------------- our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless your day.

Are you at liberty to disclose who received this vision and the circumstances such as where when etc.?

If so, will the person permit me to use their name or just their first name ?

I would at least like to have the time of the vision?

It is not necessary for me, because in my Spirit, not once did I question that this vision or its interpretation was not from the LORD but I do like to be authentic as possible with others. Some may question the source of this vision as many do not hear from our LORD in confirmation of anything and are still carnal and forever questioning and doubting because they know not JESUS CHRIST nor hear form the LORD.

If you have any reservations then so be it, then I will send our correspondence as is.

Blessings, ed

----- Original Message -----

From: -------------

To: Such and such ministries

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:32 PM

Subject: RE: Vision Inquiry!

I first received this vision 3 summers ago while preaching at the convention center at the Jesus at the Beach. This summer a couple from Ohio was at the meetings and blessed by the Lord and when they went home they wrote me a letter telling me many good things and asking me to send them the vision from 3 summers ago and what it meant. I had forgotten the vision so I had to call Ben in Frederick who was there and ask him about it and he did not remember either. Several days later the Lord came to Ben and brought the vision back and when he called me I had also remembered part of it also. That is when I asked the Lord what it meant and why those people called about it. He told me part of the meaning and I felt led to put it on an e-mail. As I did I received 4 interpretations, all different but basically in general the same. Yours was the most specific and for the most part I agree with all that you said.

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From: -------------

To: Such and such ministries

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:02 PM

Subject: vision

> "...they will dream dreams and see visions... " (Acts 2:17: Joel 2: 28)
>
> Recently a vision came and here it is--the Lord gave this to us and He is
> the one who interprets through His people. I believe that this is a vision
> for now but do not have the full meaning yet. If the Lord speaks to you let
> us know>

(Vision)

> The vision was this: Three fish were swimming in a river and they were
> bright, multicolored fish . Also in the river were swimming minnows and the
> minnows had black and gray spots on them. The bright colorful fish ate the
> minnows and as they did the minnows when they got inside them began to eat
> away at the insides and eat holes through the fish and destroyed them.
> Blessings, (------------)

----- Original Message -----

From: Such and such ministries

To: -------------

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 1:13 PM

Subject: Translation of Vision

Dear ---------, our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless your day.

I have worded this to the whole church because I believe it applies to the whole church. If you agree with this interpretation let me know. If I missed anything then also let me know.

The thoughts that came to mind when reading this vision. (Tuesday late evening, September 19, 2000)

Interpretation of ----------'s Vision

The river is life here on earth. Some of it is the pure water Word of GOD and some of it is polluted with man's words. The three (3) bright multicolored fish represent, at the time prior to eating the minnows, true Bible believing and obedient believers in the Church founded by JESUS CHRIST. They also represent the time periods of man's relationship with GOD.

1.The old testament (covenant) blip relationship.

2.The 33 years that JESUS walked the earth.

3. The time of the New Testament (Covenant) Comforter, the HOLY SPIRIT

The embodiment of the three is the essence of the true believers, i.e., in the personification of JESUS CHRIST. In the Father, SON, Holy SPIRIT and climaxing in the true believers in HIS Church. GOD is ONE and so is HIS true Church One in SPIRIT. (Note! he that hath seen ME (JESUS) hath seen the FATHER) note JESUS spoke of the FATHER in the 3rd person sense because he was still separated by the flesh but united in SPIRIT. the same as we, HIS true Church. Jesus prayed that his disciples and those who profess JESUS be ONE (John 17: 13-20). When the marriage of the Lamb takes place we shall all truly be ONE, being separated from the earthly anchor of the imperfect physical body, then made complete in SPIRIT. Amen and Hallelujah!

The Church of JESUS CHRIST is Spiritual, not physical or denominational. Bright (fish) because we are the children of light, in the appearances of the brightness of the light of GOD (HOLY SPIRIT shining from within. Multi colored (fish) representing the world wide HOLY SPIRIT filled church of JESUS coming in many of the physical outpiano coversd appearances of our human race and also coming under the labels of many named denominations. Note! Though GOD hates the word denomination (demon-in nation) because many practice false doctrines which cause divisions, there are many who have a pure heart and that is what GOD judges not the outpiano coversd flesh appearance or label but the Spirit heart, mind thoughts of a man or woman)

Reason for the number Three (3). Three (3) is the number for confirmation in the Bible. The 3 fishes are represented to indicate the belief and obedience to the written Word of GOD, and the Word written upon the heart of man that not only bear record in Heaven but also bear witness in the earth or how GOD was/is represented, bearing record in Heaven and witnessed on earth by HIS Church:

1. The FATHER, GOD of the Old Testament, (and new)

2. The WORD, (JESUS CHRIST (John 1: 14) the 33 years JESUS CHRIST, of GOD in the flesh and now

3. the HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT) the fullness of the Godhead is in the SPIRIT of GOD for GOD is ONE and GOD is SPIRIT. Know for true Bible believing and obedient Christians the fullness of GOD the FATHER, JESUS CHRIST is in the SPIRIT of GOD. Again, GOD is ONE and GOD is Spirit (Holy Spirit) kingdom) lives within each and every true Bible believing Christian.

There are also three (3) that bear witness in earth

1. The SPIRIT (HOLY SPIRIT)

2. The Water (of the written Word)

3. The blood (The actual physical blood of Christ at the cross that dripped through the rented rock and over the ark of the Covenant see http://www.ronwyatt.org/ark-of- the-covenant.htm

The body and blood of JESUS was both physical and was/is Spiritual. (John 6: 54) The Body of Christ is the Spiritual Church of JESUS Christ, the spiritual saints, temple. (Eph 2: 19-22) The Spiritual blood of JESUS CHRIST is the life giving of tribulation of sacrifice that the saints are to travel on the narrow road of tribulation (narrow in Greek meaning tribulation) and not the wide road of worldly pleasures that lead to destruction. Matthew 7:13-15. The life is in the blood. Temporary when physical, Eternal when Spiritual. (Matthew 16: 24, 25)

Note! When someone says to you, you are too "Narrow Minded," thank them for the blessing and compliment because the Word of GOD requires us to be narrow minded. Again see Matthew 7: 13-15.

The following Scripture verses are from the KJV because other versions have either deleted much or watered it down. (1John 5: 4-9 )

"For whatsoever is born of GOD overcometh the world and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our FAITH. Who is it that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that JESUS is the son of GOD? this is HE that came by water and blood , even JESUS CHRIST;

not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the SPIRIT that beareth witness, because the SPIRIT is truth. For there are three (3) that bear record in Heaven, the FATHER, the WORD (JESUS) ; see Gospel of John 1:14) and the HOLY GHOST and these three (3) are ONE.

And there are three (3) that bear witness in earth, the SPIRIT, and the water, and the blood and these three agree (confirmation) in ONE. (1 John 5: 4-9) Please read this whole chapter to get the full meaning note vs. 14 asking of JESUS must be according to HIS will in order for HIM to hear us.

Minnows are small fish that are used for bait to catch larger fish. These particular minnows look like minnows but are not, they are as physical and spiritual piranha fish that devour the flesh, of other fish, men and animals and destruction to man's soul and Spirit. They are as little foxes that destroy the vine, (SoS. 2: 15) They are as wolves dressed in sheep's clothing (Matt. 7:15) . They are false prophets.(EzK: 13: 4 ) They look and sound like the word of GOD but they leave out or twist the Word of GOD including the jots and tittles (Matt 5: 18), the prepositions, commas and periods. They are the children of their father of Lies, Satan and infested with Deceiving demons ready to devour the children of GOD. (1 Peter 5:8)

The black spots are the children of Satan's infested with evil spirits demons and easily distinguishable they are the people of the world, they are also man's words of the world, words that crook and defy the Word of GOD. They are the philosophy of the occult, the controlled Media, the New Age teachings, human intellectualism, Pornography, etc. They are deceived to the spirit of Deception and no not JESUS CHRIST nor the HOLY SPIRIT, the SPIRIT of TRUTH.

The gray color represents the fallen or falling Apostate "Christian" church who say they are Christians but are only christians in name only. They are in the gray area, neither light or darkness. They are lukepiano coversm gray and even more dangerous than those who are black and say they are not Bible believing obedient Christians.

Jesus said, He would rather the Laodocean Church's works be (Light) hot or cold (black) then lukepiano coversm (gray) because HE will spue those that are lukepiano coversm out of HIS mouth. Rev 3:16 (Wow!)

The gray spots are also the certain "scriptures" in modern translations that pollute the water of the Word of GOD and, when followed without the leading, correction and check of the HOLY SPIRIT, can lead the reader right to the pits of Hell. Remember, Satan used and twisted the Word of GOD against Eve and JESUS. To the former it caused the Fall, to GOD in the flesh, JESUS CHRIST, the WORD of GOD from the beginning of Creation, HE gave correction and rebuke to Satan the Deceiver. Just one example of many, of the importance to rightly divide the Word of GOD. (See attached above file commentary to a brother who was relying on NASB as opposed to the KJV in his teaching others dramatic differences in meaning of certain Scriptures)

Eating the minnows is when the pollution of the spirit of Deception enters the flock. Pastors and teachers teaching false doctrine cunningly and eventually leading others to the doctrines of Anti Christ, or another jesus (teaching) other than JESUS the CHRIST.

Thus saith the LORD,

"The wind shall *eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness." (Jeremiah 22:22)

And as for my flock, they * eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. (Ezekiel 34: 19-20)

*eat, 7462, Heb. raah, to tend a flock, to feign friendship, devour, eat up evil entreat, use as a friend.

The children of GOD, the Church who swim in polluted waters in evil associations, who get lazy and do not stay rooted and obey the authorized Word of GOD for lustful reasons get, hungry to eat of the world or false doctrine. When these evil spirited associations are taken in among the flock and the minnows of Satan, apostasy and false doctrine are digested then death occurs and salvation is lost. Heartfelt repentance is the only antidote for the digestion of these spotted minnows before death (Spiritual) occurs.

What is the LORD telling HIS Church, His shepherds, HIS sheep in this vision?

The LORD is piano coversning professed Christians that there are those who had, are, and will believe and receive evil spirits of Deception within their spirits to cause them to fall and suffer the second death. Read all of Matthew Chapter 13: noting vs.22 and 1 Cor. 10:12; & Rev. 21:8.

Thus saith the LORD,

"I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Thou hast a few names even in Sardis, (Baltimore, Ocean City etc.) which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. (Rev 3: 1-5)

Many, who once knew the Truth but have since departed from the truth and have eaten the spotted minnows of false prophets, doctrines, teachings, willfully sinning etc., have now fallen and suffered spiritual death, meaning they already have been or in danger of being blotted out of the "Book of Life." What is the LORD telling a few of the faithful: Wake up! Many at this time are living in Apostasy, so the LORD is giving piano coversning to those not to eat (digest) of the spotted fish in the polluted waters of the world. If you have not already received the gift of the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT, the SPIRIT of Truth, the TEACHER, the Counselor, the Comforter then ask and it will be given to you . If you do not hear thoughts from the LORD on a regular basis, then you do not belong to HIM you are listening to a stranger's (demons) thoughts. (John 10: 1-10) Each and every sheep is to stay rooted believe and obey the Word of GOD regardless of the human cost. To the pastors, teachers: though many translations of the Bible are beneficial to those on the milk, but modern versions have spotted minnows with black and gray areas. (see above file) Prove all things hold fast that which is good. Depart from Pride and the spirit of Pastoral Ownership and control. Seek those outside of your fellowship with the Apostle or Prophet anointing to take a Spiritual inventory of your congregation. Titles not necessary nor required. They are the foundation of the Church with JESUS CHRIST being the Chief Cornerstone upon which the Spiritual Church is properly knitted together for an habitation of GOD through the HOLY SPIRIT.

Ask the HOLY SPIRIT to lead you in the use the KJV and its blip and Greek meanings. Sheep, if you love your pastor or teacher and do not want him to go to hell, then, correct your pastor or teacher if he is teaching wrong doctrine causing others to stumble and fall. You and you only will be accountable to the LORD. Working out your salvation with fear and trembling is a daily work and the primary work is knowing and obeying the Word of GOD. Prepare your Spiritual treasures for eternity and not worldly temporary treasures . Be careful what you eat or digest in your mind, heart, and Spirit. If you allow a spotted minnow (thought) to enter do not entertain or digest it take it captive and cast it out in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Each sheep entering your fold,(those that deny the free flowing gifts and power of GOD through the HOLY SPIRIT, Apostate denominational doctrines of men, cults etc.) deliverance from false doctrinal spirits may be needed. Remember a little yeast or minnow can ruin the whole batch.

On the other hand, GOD has and is sending out HIS servants, apostles and prophets with the gift of Discerning of spirits to be used by the HOLY SPIRIT to help correct wrong doctrine and cleanse these congregations from deceiving spirits that have entered. Unfortunately, many leaders in these congregations cannot discern or recognize who or who is not from GOD and end up rejecting servants of the LORD ; however, to those few who do recognize the SPIRIT of GOD working through HIS servants, become equipped for every good work.

Take every thought captive whether it be of a demon or of GOD unto the Obedience of JESUS CHRIST. Prove all things hold fast that which is good. and refuse to receive the junk before it is entertained or cast out the junk if it is received.

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her (polluted waters, words, teachings practices etc.) MY people that ye not be partakers (share company, fellowship) of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Revelations 18: 4)

Bottom Lines: Don't swim in the river of death (Ex. 7:18) and eat the fish of Apostasy it could result in spiritual death and eternal separation from GOD.

Instead go find the River of Eternal to Life (Rev: 22:1) to swim in. It is full of good food, Repentance, Obedience, Salvation, Unconditional Love, The authorized Word of GOD, Forgiveness, Good Works and above all, JESUS CHRIST and HIS HOLY SPIRIT, the SPIRIT of Truth.

It is written, Man does not live on bread (minnows) alone but by every Word of GOD. Amen and Hallelujah!

Blessings, ed

Reply-To: ---------
From: -------------------
Subject: Bible Translations and comment Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:47:47 -0400

Mike, our LORD JESUS CHRIST, bless your discernment of the following.

GOD would not be so heartless not to leave us with a written absolute English version of the Bible, therefore, I believe GOD is faithful to give us an absolute and believe HE directed the writings of the translators of the King James Version (KJV). The same as the HOLY SPIRIT controlled the writings of Moses, Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Paul, Luke, Peter etc. Yes, all the plain speaking translations have there worth, in particular, for those on the milk and for quick reference and easy initial understanding; however, on pertinent issues of doctrine affecting direction for our lives and the obedience thereof, at the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT, especially, to those who teach others, if in fact they have the HOLY SPIRIT directing their teaching , the KJV coupled with its blip and Greek meanings is absolute and final proof of doctrine and a light in this present Darkness of apostasy.

Paul wrote for GOD by the Power of the HOLY SPIRIT; Prove all things, hold fast to that which good, meaning in part, to hold to that which is good in prophecy, (even to prove the modern translations of the Bible). Again, God has, and has given us a written Word, to test doctrine and I know it is found in the KJ, otherwise our striving to know the Truth would be futile. I know the mind of CHRIST, in part, and what I am confident in, is GOD is not a god that HE should lie or heartless and leave us without a source of Absolute Truth.

Jesus said

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle (prepositions, commas etc. ) shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5: 17,18, KJV jot or tittle meaning in the Greek the smallest of words (prepositions, commas, periods etc.)

jot, 2503, Gk. iota, a very small part of anything.

tittle 2762 Gk. keraia, the least particle.

Note in the above file how the use of the proposition "in" in the KJV as opposed to "on" in the NASB is significant to the present day fulfilling of Revelation 13: 16

Again, comparing the KJV Scriptures with the NASB

Romans 8: 1 KJV There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.Romans 8: 1 NASB Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. " (Where is the rest?)

The NASB, NIV deleted ,who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

When you read the following verses 2-14 in all of the translations their context in relationship to Verse 1 of the KJV and the other versions it will be quite obvious to the reader that the KJV with "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit" is the Word of GOD and that this deletion was purposely left out of the modern versions, is a deception of Satan.

Note in KJ the comma (a tittle) a continuation of the sentence in the KJV.

Simply stated, yes, there is no condemnation for those who walk, ( think, do. live, occupy, obey ) in and by the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD, the SPIRIT of Truth; however, there is condemnation who think do, occupy live by sinning in the flesh, whether you claim salvation or not.

One day, I believe it was on Good Friday, on our local FM Christian radio whose founders denominational doctrine is. "Once saved always saved" the above NASB or NIV Scripture was quoted 3 times by large ministry leaders, leaving out the above important conditional Scripture verse. My spirit suffered Spiritual nausea when I heard this. This is misleading many and sending many to lake of fire because they are misled to believe that once saved always saved and can continue to commit the sins in Revelations 21: 8, walking in the flesh in Galatians 5: 19-21, Deuteronomy 5: 6--21, Leviticus 18: 6-23 without repentance and think just because they claim salvation and call on the name of the LORD they are saved in spite of what they do or do not do. They forget that many are even now being blotted out of the book of life (Ex. 32:33; Rev. 5: 1) and that when they stand before the LORD, if at all they stand, to many of the goats and to those who give lip service instead of heart service, HE will say, Depart from me , ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels (Matt 25:41-46). And to those who say, LORD, LORD did we not prophesied, cast out devils, do many wonderful works in your name? The LORD will say I never knew you, Depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matt 7:22, 23) Yes, the means of salvation by the sacrifice and blood of JESUS CHRIST's work is available by grace and not made available by the works of any man; however, we are required to work out our Salvation with fear and trembling, (Phil. 2: 12) meaning: if we do not obey the Word of GOD and if we willfully practice sin without repentance after receiving the knowledge of truth there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation. Heb. 10: 26-29. Yes, first comes the Grace of GOD for Salvation, then comes the works and the major work is obeying the Word of GOD.

Additional serious errors among thoBlipnds, in the NASB and other translations.

1 John 5: 7 KJ: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 John 5: 7 NASB: "For there are three that testify: (Where is the rest) 1 JOHN 5: 8 KJ: And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5; 8: NASB "the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement."

These dramatic differences are very significant when you take in consideration that the Ark of the Covenant was discovered 20 feet directly under the Crucifixion site of JESUS and it has the blood of JESUS on the mercy seat. It has been stated, DNA test of this blood is miraculous. It is the blood of a human male but had no human father. see http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/W AR/index.html. Many of GOD's true prophets know that Ron Wyatt spoke the Truth without the evidence presented. This is confirmed through the gift of Discerning of spirits. I had spoken personally to Ron Wyatt, in May 99' and know he was a humble man of Truth. (He went home to the LORD, thereafter) John 5: 8 KJV is actually a prophecy saying the blood of Christ would bear witness in the earth and it has now been fulfilled.

The following another misleading Scripture from the watered down versions that has greatly contributed to a higher divorce rate among Christians than in secular society and since you rely on the NASV (B) we will again use that for and example.

Titus 2: 5 (KJ): "To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed."

Titus 2:5 NASB " to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

Note keepers is used in the KJ instead of workers in the NASB

keeper 3626. Gk. oikouros from 3624, a guard (guardian) a stayer at home domestically inclined, a good housekeeper; 3624 Gk. oikos, a family dwelling.

Bottom Line: Women were instructed to stay at home and keep (guard) their home, children, and to provide a haven for her man who is her headship, period. 1 Cor. 11: 1-16

The word workers, interesting to note, is used 27 times in the KJV with 24 of the Blipge's associated with iniquity and only 3 in the neutral or positive sense. I wonder where the NASB translators got "workers", instead of keeper or guardian. The Greek words for workers are ergates, sunergeo, whereas the Gk. word for keeper is oikouros. Quite a difference.

Needless to say, since Godly men did not take on the responsibility of the headship over the woman (1 Cor.11: 1-16) or were deceived by the Ahab-Jezebel spirits, many women departed from the obedience of this Scripture for the coveting of material possessions resulting in wives coming under submission to ungodly men (employers) other than their husbands, resulting in the old female-male sexual power play leading to more divorces and waypiano coversd children. The Biblical command is for the woman to guard (keep) , not only against flesh and blood dangers, but most importantly, against evil spiritual influences from the heavenly realms that piano covers against her, her children and husband. (Eph. 6:)

Note! 1 Cor: 11: 10 KJ "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels". Stumped on this one? You would be absolutely amazed because the deceived "modern" woman has departed from this required ordinance and are missing out on many supernatural abilities.

Know this: teachers will be held more accountable to our LORD in teaching others.

You said, "My" theology . Did you know the phrase "MY church" is used only once in the Scriptures (KJV) when JESUS said to Peter. Upon this Rock (JESUS) , I (Jesus) will build MY Church. It is not Peter's, ed's, Mike's, Sylvia's, Pastor Bill's Church, it belongs to JESUS Christ the same as everything else. Many use "my" Church, "my" congregation, my teaching, my ministry, "my" theology. The LORD, church extends 25, 000 mile in each direction and then some. It is non denominational and not restricted by 4 walls or man's doctrine. Everything of GOD belongs to GOD it does not originate from us but all of HIS Word originated from HIM and not man and to him be given the glory not to man. It is GOD's Word and not man's word (theology.) Why do men have to search for GOD in their theology, their books, their intellectualism, when GOD has given us the Bible and the HOLY SPIRIT to teach them? The reason why they go to man for their instruction is that they do not know the voice of the HOLY SPIRIT to lead them into all truth. Many are deceived and go to them who are also deceived. Yes, teachers are needed, but only those teachers who have the HOLY SPIRIT to teach the Word of GOD through them and not men who deny the power and gifts of the HOLY SPIRIT; they are double minded in all they do and should not expect to receive anything from the LORD, the HOLY SPIRIT. James 1: 5-8

Regarding the seals, disregard your ("my) theology, but go to the word of GOD. Daniel 12: vs 3 Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever. 4 . . . shut up the words and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase'. . . vs. 10: Many shall be purified, made white and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand but the wise shall understand.

I do not have the time to spar as I would be wasting it because the HOLY SPIRIT is the only one to reveal to you the meaning of the mystery of these Scriptures in Daniel 12.

Jesus himself gave us the signs of the end of the age and HIS coming in Matthew 24. He even referred to the words in Daniel 9 & 12 concerning the abominations of desolation. One of those signs is, that this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come. This witness to all the nations has already happened in our generation.

You would be hard pressed to tell the millions who have been persecuted, tortured, and martyred, especially those recently in China, Sudan, Islamic countries and throughout the world that have suffered for the sake of CHRIST that the tribulation is not here. By the way we are instructed to stay on the narrow road because the wide road leadeth to destruction. Did you know that Greek meaning for narrow is tribulation. The Bible clearly states when the rapture will take place. It will take place just prior to the opening of the 7th seal. Revelations 7:- 8. The previous 6 seals is a result of the wrath of man. GOD did not say we would not suffer the wrath of man, on the contrary, true Christians have been persecuted by others ever since the Christian name was used. GOD did say we would not suffer HIS supernatural wrath in 1 Thess. 5:9 as described in Rev. 8 or the 7th seal. The "rising up" (Rapture) to meet the LORD as described in 1 Thess 4: 16, 17 will not take place until: 1: The falling away first (its here) 2; the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition who opposeth and exhalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sitteth in the temple of GOD; showing himself that he is God. (2 Thess. 2: 1-12).

Food for thought: Is the temple of GOD that is mentioned, physical or Spiritual? What does it take for a person to show himself as GOD? I have observed through others that by the their Pride, countenance, statements and the fruit thereof, show themselves to be GOD.

Though many have become apostate and fallen away, there will be a greater falling away, especially, by the Pre-tribbers, who have been misled by their deceived, comfort preaching teachers that they will escape the persecutions by "rapture" that have existed from the early Church until present.

Have you forgotten the Scripture: Surely the LORD GOD will do nothing, but he revealth HIS secrets unto HIS servants the prophets ?(Amos 3:7)

Do you understand this Scripture: "Believe in the LORD your GOD, so shall ye be established, believe HIS prophets, so shall ye prosper" ?(2 Chron. 20:20 KJ)

Do you not know that GOD's apostles and prophets are the foundation of the New Covenant Church with JESUS CHRIST being the Chief Cornerstone in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the LORD: in whom you also are builded together for an habitation of GOD through the SPIRIT ? (Epheasians 2: 20 22)

If there are no apostles or prophets , (titles not necessary GOD hates the titles of man) teaching, correcting, chastening or prophets or prophetesses prophesying in the congregations as foretold by Joel and repeated in the book of Acts, then GOD, in the HOLY SPIRIT is not active nor anointing any of the leaders in these congregations because of either Pride, unbelief, rebelling against or restricting the free movement of GOD, the HOLY SPIRIT, speaking through those who GOD chooses to speak through and again as in old, there may be just some asses walking into congregations to give a word of piano coversning. I wonder what people would think if I bought some donkey ears at theatrical costume store and wore them when the LORD would send me to a strange congregation to give a message using my vocal chords . Would they listen or would the beat, try to kill me because I just happen to see, by the HOLY SPIRIT, a danger that they are blinded to. Balaam was riding on a prophetic instrument and did not know it. What he did not initially know was that it was the LORD who was in control and not the ass.

Many are not listening to GOD's true modern day prophets, just as they had not listened to Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea etc. and in particular, JESUS the, SON of GOD, the Chief Prophet. When HE spoke in HIS home town of Nazareth, they tried to kill Him. Ask yourself, why did JESUS have to leave Nazareth because he could not do many miracles because of their little faith and said, a prophet is not honored in his hometown, nor in his own home, nor by his own relatives? Our LORD has revealed this mystery to HIS servants based on actual experience in ministering to others and by revelation of the already written Word in the Bible.

This, among many, are not new additions to the Bible but by the Rhema Word of the HOLY SPIRIT opening the many seals, not only in the Daniel 12 subject matter, but throughout the Bible.

No one minister of the Word knows everything but they only know in part, and that includes myself, but GOD has given revelation in pieces of the puzzle. To some, He gives the female parts of the puzzle and to other HE gives the male parts in completing (fitting together) the picture, especially in these last days.

The Spiritual temple of GOD is being made complete (perfect). Though we have knowledge in part and prophesie in part, these will cease only when that which is perfect has come which is when the perfect fulfillment of Biblical prophecy is completely and perfectly fulfilled in the 2nd and final coming of our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST in Rev: 22: 12-20. The last prophecy to be fulfilled "And behold, I come quickly: and my repiano coversd is with me, to give every man (woman) according as his work shall be. Note! repiano coversd in the Greek 3408, misthos, meaning, pay for service )lit. or fig) good or bad (repiano coversd) . Until then all Words in the Bible apply and not one jot or tittle should be removed and we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Feed, literally and spiritually, preach (feed) the Word, the hungry, give water to the thirsty, clothed the naked, invite a homeless stranger to your home, visit strangers in prison or in the hospitals in the NAME, not for ourselves, but for the LORD. This is the work and fast that our LORD requires to those who profess HIS NAME and Salvation.

In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the LORD: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of GOD through the SPIRIT. (Read Ephesians 2: 13- 22. Its not a physical Body or Church but the Spiritual Body of the Church in Christ, the HOLY SPIRIT for GOD is SPIRIT and the SPIRIT gives life the flesh (physical) counts for nothing)

Editor-- Balaam's Ass Speaks: Well, you now have seen the utter confusion and vulgar mongrel degradation of the Charismatic mind. Pure human philosophy, misuse of Scripture, and demonic doctrine. What a mess. The above vision is like some of the things I have read in my Hindu books which I got from an old missionary to Bangladesh.